A former governor of Rivers State and now Transportation Minister,
Rotimi Amaechi, bared his mind on the crisis rocking the state and why
peace has continued to be elusive. Amaechi insisted that the incumbent
state governor, Nyesom Wike, should tone down his rhetoric on violence,
to bring down tension in the state while asking him to also distance
himself from ex-militants, to send a clear message that those engaging
in violence will not go unpunished. Excerpts:
6,000 policemen
and some very senior officers were deployed to Rivers State for the
re-run election. What sort of impact are you expecting that to make?Well,
if you’ve been following events in Rivers State in the last eight
months, you would have been able to appreciate why that needed to be so
– that is, the deployment of the policemen there.
The President of this country has the responsibility to protect lives and property.
If
you’ve observed very well, I have tried as much as possible to stay
away from the goings-on in Rivers. The election for governorship was
contested by Dr. Dakuku Peterside (APC candidate) and I left him to
continue to fight his battle.
Now, the most significant role a state governor is expected to play is the protection of lives and property of the people.
I
went to Omoku to visit the family of the Chairman of APC in Ward 4 of
that local government. He was murdered, his pregnant wife was
murdered, his son was also murdered. The second family I went to
visit, the story was the same thing – he was murdered and his pregnant
wife was also murdered. Fortunately for the child, they didn’t see
him. In fact, it was the grand mother who escaped with her grandchild
and that was why that one escaped death.
Police say they have looked into the matter and established cultism as reason for these killings.Okay,
so it is PDP cultists against APC cultists, is that it? Look, let me
tell you, the reason lawlessness thrives is because you do not punish
those who break the law.
I went to these communities, penultimate Saturday, Buguma, Abonema, and Omoku – these communities have been deserted.
Okay,
let us even assume that all the killings are related to cultism. The
responsibility of the police is to protect lives and property. If, for
instance, a governor begins to wine and dine with alleged cultists in
the state, you embolden them.
I am a Catholic Christian and I am proud of that. I will never meet with a cultist.
But then, shall we say the Federal Government has failed in its responsibility since it is in charge of the police?
I thought you know that the responsibility of protecting lives and properties in the state lies with the state governor.
But state governors have always said that they don’t control the police?
That
is not true. It is rare and in exceptional cases like the one I had
on my hands when I was governor. It was under the former President when
the citizens and even the state government were helpless because of the
siege created by the Federal Government on the state.
You know
there was a time when just before an election, leaders of our party were
detained. But under this President who preaches the rule of law, that
is not happening.
Whereas the police are saying the reason for the killings in
those communities were as a result of cult clashes, you are saying they
are political. Are you, therefore, vouching for all the members of
the APC that they are not violent or that none of the APC members in
Rivers is a cultist?
I wish you knew me very well.
One
thing I fear about life is that it is irreplaceable and, if you are
going to be one of my followers, you must not own a gun, you must not
carry machetes. So you cannot work with me and carry weapons.
But
that does not answer my question in the sense that what I’m saying is
that, are you saying every single member of APC is not a cultist?
Yes. That is what I am saying. To follow me, you must be God-fearing.
So you’re saying there are no sinners in APC.
Being
God-fearing does to mean you cannot commit sins, but there is always a
limit to which you definitely know you must not go beyond.
Looking
at the rhetoric, is it not obvious to both you and the state governor,
Wike, that your incendiary comments have been overheating the polity? I
told you I kept away from that state having served my eight years.
But one man has consistently used language and words that encourage
violence.
So what have you done to tone that down?
You cannot tone it down because he is the person using the violent language. He thrives in violence.
You say that your former Chief of Staff thrives in violence? That says something about you too?
He does. I had him under control. When he became a Minister, then we all saw the true colours of the type of person he is.
A Chief of Staff is someone who is so close to you; so, for you to have appointed him meant you knew him very well?
By
the time I knew who he was, we had to manage him. If I’d heard the type
of things I heard about him, I wouldn’t have appointed him. Look, I
even had to return to Port Harcourt when people started feeling
abandoned, that I had abandoned my people for the comfort of Abuja.
So you are on the offensive now?
No.
I am not on the offensive. I just went to Port Harcourt to
commiserate with the people. It is for the state governor to be civil in
his pronouncements and dealings.
Let me tell you this: Three
armed robbers were arrested by the police; they were said to have
confessed to have killed soldiers; but the Attorney General of Rivers
State now writes a legal opinion that they should not be charged to
court.
If you care for Rivers State why don’t you and the incumbent sit and find a way forward?
I’m
willing, but how does that happen? When I was governor, I had people
who did not like me but I had to visit them late at night to resolve
issues with them.
My mandate now is to deliver logistics to
Nigeria. I am not the governor. You cannot just drive to Government
House, Rivers. Okay, let us even assume that Peterside and I are the
aggressors, what do you think the state governor should do? Shouldn’t he
find a way to reach us and seek ways of creating peace. He is the state
governor for Christ’s sake.
What is the way forward?
Those
supporting and sponsoring violence must stop. If you don’t encourage
these criminals, they won’t be doing what they are doing. That was why I
did not support the Amnesty Programme because I believe that, if you
break the law, you must be punished. You don’t pay a lawbreaker
because, if you do, you embolden him or her. I predicted that if you
pay militants in the South, you must pay to militants in the North too.
So, if Boko Haram members come out now to demand that they want to be
paid to lay down their arms, why shouldn’t we pay them? Or if MASSOB
members say they will stop their protests but they want amnesty, what do
we do?
Some of us believe that if you sit down with your
friend, your former Chief of Staff, to trash these issues, there will be
peace in Rivers State.
Look, in politics, there are things you do as a product of
consultations. We agreed to nominate somebody for the ministerial
slot of Minister of State which came to Rivers State. A mutual friend
advised that Wike was a bit down since his removal as Chief of Staff,
and we decided that that counsel was a good one. But you know what, in
retrospect, that advice was the worst advice I’ve ever received and
acted on in my life. I was overwhelmed by the number of people who
called on his behalf and we had to swallow the bitter pill; and mind
you, people had already branded me as a stubborn person; so I also
needed to bend over backwards and that was how we nominated him.
On this issue of way forward, a state governor should be able to do everything possible to have peace in his state.
As
for me, I fear God a lot. That does not mean I am a saint, but I fear
God a lot because the consequences of not fearing God are so grave.
- As aired on Channels TV
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